I posted a while ago about the sudden death of my OB/GYN, Dr. Cliff Kahle. It was a real blow to me and I have recently been wondering about whether his death was just because of too much, and whether I am taking on too much. I heard he committed suicide, but I didn't know if that was true. In just putting his name in a search engine, I came across a number of his other patients who also blogged about his death and much he meant to them. One of them looked like she had worked with Dr. Kahle and it said he was found in a remote location, still in his scrubs, with a gunshot wound to the head. I need to be careful about getting what I wish for, because now that I know more of the specifics, I'm crushed all over again.
I always had a very high opinion of Dr. Kahle. He was quiet and kind. He was funny and obviously smart, and he cared very much about his patients. And I am consumed with why this happened. I think I might know why and it makes me wonder about me (and some people I care about very much).
Cliff Kahle was an excellent doctor. If the comments on his obituary are any indication, every person who ever came in contact with him LOVED him. He has a wife and four young children. He also was the medical director for both the family planning clinic at the Southern Nevada Health District and a medical spa. He was clinical faculty member for the University of Nevada School of Medicine. He was active in his church and (I think) had some kind of leadership role. Is all of that just too much to keep up with? I know some doctors who can manage their family lives and their practices, and that's all. How is it possible to keep up with 1) family; 2) a thriving practice of emotional, hormonal, pregnant women; 3) resident doctors and medical students; 4) private enterprises that want your expertise; and 5) a government agency overseeing the needs of high risk population and 6) the various callings of your faith (regardless of denomination)? In a way, it's no wonder this man was under pressure. I would imagine that when you have always said yes, it becomes impossible to say no. When everyone thinks you are perfect, it becomes unacceptable to start making mistakes.
I've had my own bouts with depression before. Pretty serious depression. I certainly don't know what he was feeling, but I understand the demon. Dr. K helped me get through the last one. After two devastating miscarriages, I wasn't sure I would recover from the trauma. The first one in particular was especially rough. I had seen the heartbeat. I was out of the danger zone. I was ready to enter the second trimester. Then, "this is the pregnancy tissue here, and that is not normal. I am so sorry". I didn't want any baby, I wanted THAT baby. The second miscarriage was just a cruel joke. But he assured me I would be ok, that he had experienced this pain in his own family, and that he would do whatever it took to help me. And he did.
So I am going to start being mindful of what I am doing and saying no. No more trying to be all things to all people. No more bending the rules to make someone else happy with me. No more taking on more that I can manage. But I am also going to start saying yes. Yes, I would love to take my kids to the park and play Candyland and read bedtime stories. Yes, I am going to take better care of myself. Yes, I will be a better mother, wife and friend. And I want all of you to do that too. Don't take on more than you can manage. Don't sacrifice your family time to take on one more obligation. Don't go to bed a few minutes later just to finish another project. Take care of yourself.
By the way, if anyone knows where Dr. Kahle is buried, please let me know. I'm sure it's somewhere in Las Vegas, but I don't know for sure and I would like to leave flowers at his grave site.
Sunday, December 21, 2008
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I came across your blog by googling Dr Kahle-I too was a patient of his-he delivered my 2nd baby in July and I was due to see him again in early December-I am feeling the same feelings as you are
Thank you for your kind words about Dr. Kahle.
The University of Nevada School of Medicine Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology joins you in mourning the loss of our colleague and friend.
Paul G. Stumpf, MD
Chair, UNSOM OBGYN
I came across your blog trying to find kind words about Dr. Kahle for his family. If you don't already know, Dr. Kahle has been buried at the Palm cemetery off Jones in the North part of town.
I'm sorry. I know how much he meant to you.
I am still sad about Dr.Kahle. I did not know him that long but when I met him for the 1st time early Oct. It seemed like I knew him due to his warm and kind demeanor.I had surgery Nov 13th and was able to see him that Tue before Thanksgiving. Still hard for me to go to the office and not think of him. He was a excellent Doc and very a caring man.The tears still fall. My deapest sympathy to his family and friends. Remember "That smile".
Hello,
I just called Dr. Kahle's office to schedule my annual appointment, and the secretary just told me he passed away. I was completely taken back. He has been my doctor for almost 7 years, and delivered my baby boy on Aug 1st, 2007. I Googled his name, and that was when I came across your blog. He was such a wonderful doctor! My whole family loves him, even my husband always had wonderful things to say about him. I tell all of my friends what a great OBGYN I have, and reccommend him to everyone. A lot of the reason I decided to stay in Las Vegas for these next few years is because I really wanted him to be my doctor for my next baby. I cant believe this happened. I will pray for his family. We will miss you Dr. Kahle!
I called the office today only to find out the tragic news about Dr. Kahle. He will be greatly missed. He was my Doctor since 2003 when he delievered my second child. My deepest sympathies go out to his wife and children. He was a great person!
Thank You for you very kind words and thoughts about Dr. Kahle...my loving uncle. everyday gets harder but our family knows that he is home with heavenly father now & he is watching over us. We are so amazed by how many people cliff has really deeply touched & i know everyone will always remember him. He loved his wife & kids more then anything. & he really truly cared about each & everyone of his patients & friends. he is an wonderful man & we all love him here at home.
I came across your blog googling Dr. Kahle also! I called yesterday (April 28) to schedule my annual exam and then they told me the awful news that he had passed! I literally fell to the floor, I was so in shock!!! I immediately called my husband and broke down and cried!!! I loved Dr. Kahle... he was such a lovely man, caring, understanding, easy to talk to. I hated having my exams, but I liked going because I didn't mind seeing him. He always gave you a hug and reached out like a friend would. Anyways, I am still in such shock! I can't believe he's gone!!! And then I came across your blog and to learn he may have committed suicide! My heart is so sad!!! Do you know that this is true? If anyone knows more information on his passing, please, let me know. I know a lot of time has passed, but this is so fresh to me. Mad working mom, thank you for having this blog and for posting his picture... I will miss Dr. Kahle so much! He will be a part of my life forever.
I can not tell you how devistated I am about his Death, Dr Kahle delivered all three of my children. The last being on October 30th 2008... I actually just found out and it made me realize how much he meant to me. Suprising, but I guess when someone guides you through pregnancy and delivers your baby you become very attatched... I will truely miss him :(
He was your Doctor.
My Moms Bestfriend
And my Daddy.
Words can't express the pain we go through everyday. We never saw this coming. My Dad loved all the patients and people he came in contact with. He took the time to know YOU all personally. Let me guess... his voice reassured YOU? When he placed his hand on YOUR shoulder it calmed YOU down? And everytime you called him cause YOU had questions he took the time to answer everyone of them, never rushed YOU off the phone and before he got off the phone he made sure YOU were "okay"..yah that was my Daddy.
Time is "suppose" to help; it only hurts.
Your blog is amazing, it really is.
The title of this is PERFECT for my husband Dr. kahle. "Taking on too much". My Husband was the MOST caring and loving man in the WORLD.He LOVED his family and was an amazing dad to our four children. Cliff loved
being a OB/GYN dr and loved everyone
of his patients and would worry about each patient just as if they were a part of our own family.We are HEARTBROKEN
and LOST without Cliff,but one thing
we do know for sure is that he did take on too much,but he would'nt of had it any other way.We now know that Cliff is with our Heavenly Father and he is still working to make sure All those beautiful little babies are arriving safely to a loving family. We "thank You" for your thoughts and prayers I still get cards and letter from people who's life he has touched! WE MISS YOU
AND LOVE YOU AND WE WILL SEE YOU
AGAIN!!!!!
I woke up this morning and the first thing on my mind was Dr. Kahle. I don't know why. I don't think I dreamt about him. Anyway, then I turned on the TV and there was a show about people who commit suicide and why they do it. I thought it was somewhat awkward because Dr. Kahle had been on my mind just a few minutes prior. I decided to google his name to see if there were any new blogs about him and I hadn't seen this one yet. I started to read all of the stories and how he touched so many lives, and I just broke down in tears. All of them were great, but Ciara's touched me the most because I answered yes to all her questions. I was one of Dr. Kahle's employess and I can't tell you how much I enjoyed working for him. He was the greatest person I had ever met. He never judged and never looked down at you. He cared for his patients as if they were his family. He was so compassionate and took the time to answer all questions, even if he had just came back from a delivery and was an hour behind. He still listened and took his time. He was the only one to notice if I had cut my hair or colored it (not even my own husband noticed!). He knew when there was something wrong with me and always asked if I wanted to talk to him about it. He did anything in his power for his patients and anyone. He put himself in the situation of others. He would walk his patients to the front and reassure them that everything was going to be fine. He would bend rules no matter what the consequences would be. And poor Teresa, she would hear an earful from us all the time for all the broken rules. And it's not till this tragedy happened that I understand why he did it. That's just how Dr. Kahle was. That's who he was known by, by being "way too nice"..
I don't know if anyone knew this, but he mowed his lawn the day he died. YES, he mowed his lawn. You would think with so many things he has going on, mowing the lawn would be the last thing on his mind, but he did it. I always thought that Teresa scored the jackpot with this man. He would answer Teresa's phone calls at any given time. She would call in the middle of a pap smear and he would answer (probably not in the middle of a delivery but I guess that's understandable). In the summer when the girls were on vacation, they would come to the office and work. His boys would come every so often, but they were just the most beautiful family I had ever seen. They were so close, they were just an ordinary family. Money didn't fase them at all.
I remember the day I received the news of Dr. Kahle's death. Kennetha called me and told me to sit down, and told me what he had done to himself. I was in awe and could'nt believe it. It didn't seem true, not Dr. Kahle. Why Dr. Kahle? No there's a mistake. He wouldn't do that. No. He loves his kids and his wife. His family is perfect. He has it all. He's happy. He has a beautiful family. A career. What else could be missing in his life.
I cried all day and there was not a moment in that day that I didn't think about him and his family. His poor kids and Teresa. I could'nt even imagine losing someone like him. Till this day it's still so surreal. I could keep going with how much he's touched so many people and he definitely touched my heart. He was such a wonderful man. And why he did it? I don't think anyone will ever know. I can't imagine what his last thoughts were. What was he thinking? What was going through his mind? We will never know. But I do know that he loved his family very much and that he had the biggest heart ever. He was a great father, husband, son, uncle, friend and the greatest boss. You'll always be in my heart Dr. Kahle. I miss your jokes and your stories of the kids and how you and Teresa met. And that deep voice of yours, especially when you were tired, it was extremely deep then. I miss your big smile and that laugh. I just miss your presence. I'm going to visit you for your birthday which is in a few days. I love you very much Dr. Kahle.
I was a patient of Dr. Kahle, I just found out this news today (August 28th) I am so crushed!!! I had an appt with my new OBGYN because Dr. Kahle's office didn't take my insurance last year. Anyway I wanted to start seeing him because I have another insurance carrier, when the nurse at my new OBGYN told me what happened, I could not believe it! I wish it was not true! He delivered both my babies, my daughter in 2003 & my son in 2007. He also performed other surgeries & tied my tubes. My pregnancies were really bad, I was always sick & he always was concern & caring for me.
He even had to bring his children to the hospital when I delivered my daughter, because he was picking them up from school & the baby was not waiting. My thoughts & prayers go out to his wife & children! He will always be in my heart! The best Doctor I ever met!
Dr. Kahle delivered my daughter in 2005. I recently needed to get his office contact info for my records, and discovered this sad news. He had to deliver my daughter via c-section and did such a wonderful job with everything, I will be forever indebted. Also, one time I needed to contact him on-call late one night while I was very pregnant, he was patient and so caring.
I remember just before my daughter's delivery, Cliff had just come back from a fishing trip in Alaska with his good buddies. (they almost had a plane accident in AK) But he seemed SO HAPPY and refreshed after that trip, looked years younger in spirit than he had just a couple weeks prior - I'll never forget that. He said that was the first "guys weekend" he'd gone on since he was married and so grateful. Anyway, that will be my last image of him in my mind.
So, I hope his family is at peace since this has happened. And I hope they know what a great contribution their Dad gave to countless other families - he was a truly gifted doctor and surgeon, and helped us women through the nerves and shared the awe of having a baby.
I just heard the incredibly sad news about Dr. Kahle. I am so so sad for his family, almost devastated. I had a hysterectomy six years ago. During my visit to my primary care physician today, she recommended that I contact Dr. Kahle to consider another possible operation. I called his office phone number, but I soon discovered that the phone was disconnected.
I first met Dr. Kahle when I was suffering from pain and bleeding. From the moment when Dr. Kahle shook my hand and took my history, I felt like I was talking to a friend as much as to a doctor. He held my hand and told me that I could trust him to run some tests and tell me what was wrong. When I returned for my test results, Dr, Kahle sat down with me and answered all of my questions. We discussed my options and we decided together that I needed to have a complete hysterectomy.
Dr. Kahle visited me in the hospital every day and took a few calls from me at night. He always returned my phone calls promptly and never seemed bothered that I might have woken him up in the middle of the night. I often joked with him that my father, a retired physician, would have loved to have worked with him. My father used to make housecalls and took phone calls at every hour of the day and night.
After my operation, I woke up to find Dr. Kahle holding my hand. I asked him if he had been able to do a partial hysterectomy. He held my hand, smiled, and told me that he had to perform a complete hysterectomy. He told me about some complications that occurred during my surgery. When I was discharged from the hospital, I told Dr. Kahle how sad I was not to be his patient anymore and said that I could always go back to see him once a year for my annual mammogram.
Dr. Kahle also sat with me at the hospital while I cried for what I had lost ... a chance to meet someone in the future and have a baby later in my life. Dr. Kahle was extremely patient with me while he explained that, even if I had been able to become pregnant, I would have most likely not been able to carry the baby to term or the baby would have been extremely deformed. I got through that difficult part of my life due to Dr. Kahle's kind and understanding words.
I will always remember Dr. Cliff Kahle as the kindest, most professional doctor who has ever lived. I honestly believe that he saved my life. I have told anyone who would listen that I have the most wonderful OB/GYN in the world.
I will always remember Dr. Kahle's friendly smile and caring voice. I would like to extend my deepest sympathy to Dr. Kahle's family and friends.
My Deepest Sympathy
Dr. Kahle was my OB/Gyna for a couple of years. He delivered my daughter and even helped me get through my postpartum depression. I'm so freaking sad!!! My insurance changed so I changed doctors. Today I recieved my new insurance and first doctor I called DR. KAHLE. When they said he died, I cried. I have never known or even heard of a more caring doctor. I still referred my Mom and anyone who would listen to him. He was the best doctor a girl could have.
Mina,
He gave birth to my daughter and I liked him a lot. Peace be with you
One of the saddest days of my life was losing Dr. Kahle. It will be 11 years this November since we lost the best Doctor in the world. I'm still sadden everytime I have to go into a Doctor's Office; I think about how he helped me through some very tough times. I am so thankful God put him in my path.
Incredibly sad to find this out. I stumbled upon this news while trying to search for him regarding the delivery records for my daughter's birth. He was my OB and delivered my daughter 18 years ago via C-section. This is such a shock! Would have NEVER guessed he'd do this. It just doesn't fit the character I remember him having. He truly was a sweet and caring guy.
Deepest Sympathies!
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